Wed 26 Jan 2005
That is a quote from a man who slit his daughter’s neck in front of her younger brothers. They ran away and called their uncle, and when he got caught, that is what he said. This story is beyond belief! The guy works at Al-Awqaf ministry, and belongs to جماعة التكفير و الهجرة. He was jailed for a year and a half in Saudi for his terrorist beliefs, and now he works at Al-Awqaf, comforting though, no??
So he comes back from Hajj, and goes straight to the house and kills his daughter. In Kuwait Times it says that he claims she was a prostitute, but doesnt say that in AlQabas. Now let me get this straight, the man suspects his THIRTEEN year old daughter of prostitution, so he comes home, ties her up (she was laughing thinking he was playing around with his daughter), then calls her younger brothers, tells her to titshahad and that she will be going to heaven, points her head towards Mecca, starts cutting her throat while she’s begging him to stop.
So everytime he suspects something he will act without thinking?? Lets say for his argument’s sake that he was right and that she was doing what he claimed….does that give him the right to kill her seeda!?! Even more importantly, wouldnt he blame himself for being such a wonderful father, jailed for a year and half for his extremist beliefs, leaving his young daughter with no father figure or someone to look up to?!?
Alla yaakhith hal khamma o tafkeerhum o takfeerhum ba3ad! There you have it ladies and gentlemen, جماعة التكفير و الهجرة and their ideologies and excellent morals they want to spread.
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January 26th, 2005 at 11:10 am
I hope they fucking torture the guy and then hang him. Satan really can appear anywhere.
January 26th, 2005 at 11:19 am
Q
و الله اني لما قرأت الخبر اليوم بالجريدة ما صدقت و قعدت اسب و اشتم ابن ال*@#% هذا!! و قاعد افكر ، هذا مال اعدام بدون محاكمة ، بس بعدين قلت أن انسان مثل هذا و يسوي هالفعلة أكيد مو صاحي أو فيه مرض نفسي. من قبل كم سنة حدثت حادثة مشابهة بأمريكا لما الأم أخذت أبناءها بالقرب من بحيرة بجانب منزلهم ، و قامت بقتل طفليها عن طريق هشم جمجمتهم بصخرة كبيرة. و اذا ماني غلطان المحكمة أصدرت حكم بأن الام فيها مرض نفسي و تم ادخالها مستشفى الطب النفسي للعلاج. فمن الممكن أن هالمجرم هذا يعاني من مرض نفسي دعاه إلى عمل فعلته الشنيعة هذه. يا أن يكون هذا التفسير أو أنه قام بفعلته بناءا على تفكيره متأثرا بتراكمات الفكر الارهابي اللي يدعون اليه جماعة التكفير
January 26th, 2005 at 11:27 am
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January 26th, 2005 at 11:30 am
how brutal! 13 yrs old prostitute?! i cannot believe it! and even if she was prostitute why he was going to kill the other kids?
he must be psycho or something…
January 26th, 2005 at 11:34 am
Amerab, I actually would rather have him tortured and prisoned for the rest of his life in solitary confines, without giving him the chance to go crazy or kill himself!
bughazi, it really makes u sick when reading something like that! o to be honest I think its a mix of both, I think that this tafkeer and iltaraakum of it slowly took him out of reality and drove him crazy and that he is actually not thinking! But to say that he wished he had more time so he could kill the rest makes this really crazy!
January 26th, 2005 at 12:25 pm
Q
مش كل حاجه ترموها على التكفير و الهجره بأه:)
الحادث ليس له اى تفسير منطقى سوى ان الاب مريض نفسى
January 26th, 2005 at 12:56 pm
بو مريوم صح كلامك أن ما يصير أن نلوم جماعة التكفير و الهجرة على اللي صار بس يا أخي اذا ثبت أن الأب هذا مريض نفسي فمو بعيدة أن طريقة تفكير هالجماعة و منهجهم كان له تأثير على سلوكه و الجريمة اللي قام فيها! لاحظ أنا قاعد أقول مو بعيدة ، أو كذلك ممكن يكون الأخ فيوزاته ضاربة من غير جماعة التكفير و هذا هم محتمل
January 26th, 2005 at 1:15 pm
I don’t think so Bo-Maryoom. Incidents like this were known in the old times when people used to have their basic education in Masajid. I have heard a lot of similar stories mostly in Egypt. This fanatic is the offspring of that education. And if a person like that could cold bloodedly slaughters his own flesh and blood what do you think a human life is worth to him? For him it’s a belief. And I don’t doubt for a second that he called her a prostitute for the mere fact of her not obeying his strict orders. Wake up guys, they are spreading in our society like cancer and it’s not funny anymore.
January 26th, 2005 at 1:31 pm
Rabab
Maybe they have there belifs, but it doesn’t reach to killing your own daughter
I met with some of that groupe before long time ago”والله العظيم من زمان و ما اعرف اى احد فيهم اللحين” ok, they have there own translation of the Islam but it doesn’t reach to killing a daughter
In Egypt I think it’s a different case coz its”3adat o taqqaleed”mixed with Islam
I agree that al takfeer wal higra maybe helped but it’s not the main cause
January 26th, 2005 at 2:20 pm
طبعا أسهل لنا وأريح أن نلقي باللوم على الأمراض النفسية.. لأن أي تفسير آخر سيكون مرعبا.. بس ما صارت.. كل جريمة يرتكبها كويتي نقول مريض نفسي، ويطلع بعدها بيومين ويمكن يتوظف بالأوقاف بعد
إذاكان مريضا نفسيا أو لأ، فإن الجماعات التكفيرية(وفي رأيي المتواضع فإن كل جماعة دينية هي في النهاية جماعة تكفيرية) لها دور رئيسي في الحادث، الهوس بالجنس والشرف والعفة هو شغلهم الشاغل فيما يبدو، وهذا لا يقتصر على الجماعات الإسلامية فقط، بل وحتى المسيحية المتطرفة
قبل كم يوم كانت قصة الشيعي اللي قتل أبناءه بعد أن أطلعهم على موقع ظهور المهدي المنتظر.. واليوم القاتل سني
هذي اللي يسمونها الوحدة الوطنية والا بلاش.. ولا فرق بين شيعي وسني إلا بالتقوى والعمل الصالح
سامحوني عالهذرة بس محترة وما أدري شسوي
January 26th, 2005 at 2:29 pm
I was going to put something up on my blog about this murder… but I was too stunned and didn’t know what to say about it!
We still don’t know what it is that the daughter supposedly did not obey!
January 26th, 2005 at 2:30 pm
Meanwhile… this story made the front page of the New York Times website:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/26/international/middleeast/26paternity.html?hp
January 26th, 2005 at 2:33 pm
شروق ، انا معاك لما على موضوع المجرمين و ملفاتهم في الطب النفسي ، بس هالمرة الحادثة ماهي اطلاق نار على رتل عسكري أمريكي مثل ماهي العادة.. لا هالمرة أب عائد من الحج و أول ما قام به هو قتل ابنته!! انا ماني مروان المطوع بس أعتقد أن الريال مو صاحي و يحتاج معاينة نفسية عشان نعرف شللي خلاه يقوم بفعلته
January 26th, 2005 at 3:15 pm
يا جماعه مافي تفسير غير أن هذا الرجل وحش حقير…و ما أقدر أقول الا الله يصبر أمها
January 26th, 2005 at 3:47 pm
I agree with Rabab and Shurouq to a large extent, in that his actions were based on radical beliefs which he strengthened by being part of that group. This insane obsession with sex and honor is spread by them and this is one example of a guy having doubts about his daughter’s actions….so he kills her!! And then killing her and telling her to titshahad and that she’s going to heaven and turning her head towards Mecca and slaughtering her like a sheep just proved that even if he is mental, he has something deeply wrong and confused when it comes to religion as well!
Im not saying the reason he did it is bcz he is part of them, im saying that the reason he lost his mind may be bcz he was part of them! Ur talking about disillusioned people جماعة التكفير و الهجرة, who walked around in Algeria with a sword in one hand and a Quran in the other and killing people, and that was the same group! U cant tell me the whole group was psycho?! I mean they might have been disturbed and mentally unstable people before joining, but after joining they are mentally unstable and disillusioned, a dangerous mix!
BoMaryoom, ba3allim 3alaik amn ildawla, moo ma3qoola ma tathkir wala waa7id minhum ;P
Zaydoun, u need to subscribe or something, is it about the same story?
nano, u know whats weird? In the newspaper they didnt mentioned the mother at all!
BTW, in AlRai AlAam, it says that an autopsy was made after the murder, and proved that the girl was ……….. a virgin.
January 26th, 2005 at 4:41 pm
No.. its a story about Ahmad Fishawi and his alleged 3urfi wedding, and how Egyptian society reacted
I don’t know why I saw a connection..
January 26th, 2005 at 5:44 pm
Bo Ghazi,
Marwan Mutawwa is the definition of the word ‘mental’ if you ask me
Zaydoun,
Looks like Fishawi Jr. is in deep shit.. But, where’s the connection?
Nano,
Amen
January 26th, 2005 at 5:51 pm
بومريوم والباقي
الانتماء لجماعة التكفير والهجرة هو أكبر مرض نفسي بالعالم
مبتدئ
January 26th, 2005 at 6:48 pm
Makes me sick to my stomach.
According to sources, the father thought his 13-year-old daughter was no longer a virgin, which was his reason for killing her.
Forensic reports proved she was, in fact, a virgin.
For every step we take forward, we take 25 back. Idiots.
N.
January 26th, 2005 at 6:53 pm
7asebeya allah wen3em alwakeel…allah wakabar 3aleeh…how could he kill his own child!!!!
chabdey bedat tagleb o ana I’m picturing this little girl beeing be beheaded…allah ye9aber galb omha o ahalha…o inshallah yaketh jezata…allah wakbar 3aleeh!
I’m in state of shock!
January 26th, 2005 at 8:01 pm
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I saw most of the videos broadcasted from Iraq showing the aljama3a or whoever slaughtering their victims.
Most painful to watch, not that any of them wasn’t, was the last american.
Reason:
Knife was blunt & he had to go on & on.
Lions do it more violently & with their teeth, but they are “lions”.
Its when a human being becomes capable of such deed…wow.
Though capital punishment is no deterrence, at least it is the world minus 1 lunatic.
BTW, it is these kinds of creatures that Rasputin of Keyfan was praying for & yad3ee lohom in his articles during the strike on fallouja.
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January 26th, 2005 at 8:01 pm
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I saw most of the videos broadcasted from Iraq showing the aljama3a or whoever slaughtering their victims.
Most painful to watch, not that any of them wasn’t, was the last american.
Reason:
Knife was blunt & he had to go on & on.
Lions do it more violently & with their teeth, but they are “lions”.
Its when a human being becomes capable of such deed…wow.
Though capital punishment is no deterrence, at least it is the world minus 1 lunatic.
BTW, it is these kinds of creatures that Rasputin of Keyfan was praying for & yad3ee lohom in his articles during the strike on fallouja.
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January 26th, 2005 at 8:58 pm
This is insane! What is happening to the world? I can’t think of one sensible reason to push this maniac to murder his little girl by SLAUGHTERING her the way he did. La, o he faced Mecca as if to make it seem like a religious act.
The world is going mad, I can’t believe some people can be so stupid! Slaughtering people seems to happen more frequently than before ever since that poor American victim was slaughtered in Iraq several months ago.
I can’t think of any other way to disparage the value of the human life!
Poor girl. How unfortunate it is to have such an insane person as her dad.
And, out of respect to the victims’ families, please don’t watch the slaughtering clips and don’t help in spreading them out. You never know how some people can get used to these scenes anyways.
January 27th, 2005 at 1:20 am
She was VIRGIN - proven by atopsy!!! He should be castrated! khara ib shakla o amthala
January 27th, 2005 at 1:40 am
Now this guy I would love to see hanging from a rope or executed by firing squad… NOT the poor Pakistanis who were hanged a few weeks ago
But of course, wasta and tribal crap nonsense will get in the way as usual
January 27th, 2005 at 4:01 am
Zaydoun when saying poor pakistani’s, are you talking about the drug dealers who were hanged couple of days ago?
January 27th, 2005 at 9:28 am
To every influencial person: Wake up and do something. You are responsible to make a change for the better, infront of Allah and the people.
La 7awla wala quwa ela b’Allah.
January 27th, 2005 at 9:53 am
Just disgusting..and the thing is, unless you were already a bit unstable or severely compromised in some faculty like your ability to reason or to control your emotions, you would not be drawn to the type of thinking associated with religious fanaticism. You would be able to think your way out of ridiculous assumptions, like having the right to kill someone for any reason.
Why don’t they learn the parts of the Quran that are compassionate or that remind them that they have no power to punish. Their selective interperetation depends upon their mental and emotional imbalance.
فَذَكِّرْ إِنَّمَا أَنْتَ مُذَكِّرٌ(21)
(22) لَسْتَ عَلَيْهِمْ بِمُصَيْطِرٍ
(23) إِلا مَنْ تَوَلَّى وَكَفَرَ
(24) فَيُعَذِّبُهُ اللَّهُ الْعَذَابَ الأكْبَرَ
(25) إِنَّ إِلَيْنَا إِيَابَهُمْ
(26) ثُمَّ إِنَّ عَلَيْنَا حِسَابَهُمْ
Sura 88
Nowhere in that is there any idea that humans can take it upon themselves to be judge and executioner. How many of us are out there teaching, or changing minds? Making people realise there is something beyond the crap they get fed by zealots. We are preaching to the converted mostly. At least I feel I am a lot.Sorry Q for taking so much space.
January 27th, 2005 at 1:27 pm
Zaydoun, its interesting, but cant see a connection still ;P
Shurouq and Boghazi, last i remember of Marwan AlMutawa was like 7 or 8 yrs ago, nothing since! Is he still alive and active?
مبتدئ, walla 3adil kalaamik
SheWrites, we went a step forward? when? ;P
JellyB, absolutely agreed!
Brachypelma, imagine the effects on the younger brothers who were called to witness the slaughtering of their own sister by the hands of their own father in from of their eyes! If u thought watching a video of a stranger was terrible, how can they ever recover from that!
Suvai, I absolutely agree…watching these things on TV stations like aljazeera will only lead to messing up some kid’s minds! The kuwaiti newspapers dont help either, trying to put any bloody dead body on front pages!
Q8Sheikh, i think that would be the best solution actually! Castrate him and then smother him with porn 24/7 in a small cell alone!
Zaydoun, how sad, but true about the tribal wasta!
Valiant Contender, we’ve been saying that forever, but who would listen to reason these days? Its all about improving me instead of improving us!
kwtia, well said, and please take all the space u want, ur opinions are always welcome here!
January 27th, 2005 at 2:57 pm
That is so sick!! ;( Things like that make me feel the whole world is going to hell .. hell on earth! Islam is nothing what so ever like that .. it’s a religion of peace and love .. that’s how I understood it since I was a child anyway .. what right had that man to take his daughters life!! & What is this psychopath’s definition of prostitute anyway!! Mo labsa 7jab!
#^%#^#^&*#*#% ;(
January 31st, 2005 at 10:20 pm
I wish you guys had a lot more err…good news, but as a fully fledged Kuwaiti (twat) studying abroad, I couldn’t have asked for something more horrible to remind me of my special place I call home ^_^ I wish I can explain how much that story has affected me personally, oh well…
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